A person of the state of Song named Er Shuo was noted¹ for his eloquence²（口才，雄辩） at his times. On one from the famous She Xia school of the state of Qi could defeat him in his argument that "a white horse is not a horse".

 

Nevertheless when he passed the pass riding his white horse, he would pay the horse-passing tax and never argued with those guards that a white horse is not a horse.

 

宋国人儿说能言善辩著名于时，当他坚持‘白马非马’这一学术观点时，齐国著名的稷下学派没有一个人能驳倒他的观点。

 

然而，他骑白马通过关卡时，还是如数交纳马匹过关费，并不和关卡的官吏争执白马是不是马。

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